on 3/31/2021 at 8:19 PM

Removing the tenant at the end of nonrenewal/holdover cases


From: Harry Heist

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Does anyone have an opinion on allowing a Writ of Possession (or whatever you call it in your state) to be executed on a nonrenewal or holdover case (with Declaration in place)  in light of the mixed messages we are getting?

If the underlying reason for a nonrenewal or a holdover eviction is nonpayment of rent, is this going to be considered a violation under the CDC Order?

Is there any consensus amongst the attorneys?

Are they being intentionally vague here or is it just poor drafting? What is this new wording on trespass intended to address?

Harry

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on 4/1/2021 at 3:01 PM

From: Matthew Miller

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Michigan has not stopped termination cases because of the CDC declaration.

Frankly, I think the CDC was pretty clear that their moratorium was only about non-payment of rent.

Some Michigan courts are – correctly in my opinion – deciding that some termination cases against month-to-month tenants are retaliatory for their having filed a CDC declaration and those are losing.

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Harry                 I agree with you.  We are arguing that this infringes on our right to freedom of...

on 4/1/2021 at 2:55 PM

From: Christopher Walker

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Harry

                I agree with you.  We are arguing that this infringes on our right to freedom of contract and forces us to house someone we don’t want to house.  In taking up this fight we want to point out any state that has been allowing non renewals with CDC’s in place.  If you have any guidance from your courts on this it would be greatly appreciated.  We are getting fed up here in AZ and this battle is just beginning.

Sincerely,

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on 4/1/2021 at 2:52 PM

From: Harry Heist

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The Arizona Supreme Court’s position is exactly why this issue concerns me. Most judges in Florida have been allowing the full eviction of tenants for nonrenewal/holdover despite a Declaration in place. The underlying reason for most nonrenewal/holdover evictions is usually nonpayment of rent.  The legal aid organizations have been referring to trying to close “loopholes” in the CDC Order and this is what they are referring to.

If the DOJ or FTC take this same position, there will be major ramifications to eviction attorneys and landlords.

Hopefully the CDC will come out with a new FAQ that addresses this simple issue.  To me, this is of utmost importance.   It is indeed the elephant in the room.   

Harry Heist

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                Is there any local or statewide order that discusses the non renewals and the non-applicability to the CDC Order?  We are looking to challenge the AZ Supreme Court on its position that the CDC applies to non renewals.

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on 4/1/2021 at 2:31 PM

From: Christopher Walker

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Kirk,

                Is there any local or statewide order that discusses the non renewals and the non-applicability to the CDC Order?  We are looking to challenge the AZ Supreme Court on its position that the CDC applies to non renewals.

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on 3/31/2021 at 9:14 PM

From: Robert Goldman

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Kirk Cullimore Sr wrote:

In Utah, our nonrenewal does not require “cause”.  Landlords don’t give a reason (except in Section 42 and Section 8). Most judges have determined that the CDC order does not apply to nonrenewal. We have had a couple question if this was just a means around the CDC order since the person clearly owed rent. But even in those cases, they have granted the restitution.  Just my experience.

 

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In Oklahoma we have Legal Aid appear on the Eviction docket and sometimes they are succcessful in defending by alleging the 30 day is a subtefuge to evict for Non-payment of rent.  In any event you cannot combine the 30day termination with a demand for rent.  Robert Goldman

on 3/31/2021 at 8:45 PM

From: Nathan Lybarger

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Our conclusion here has been that the new trespassing language is meant to address landlords that are attempting to circumvent the civil process by pursuing criminal trespass charges against those tenants that are otherwise protected from civil eviction due to non-payment.  This is not a problem that we've seen in our practice area, but apparently it's been an issue elsewhere?

Our practice has been that any time a tenant has submitted a CDC Declaration and we feel that our client still has a viable claim for possession, we'll address it with the judge before entering our default judgment.  Sometimes the judge agrees that a non-renewed tenant is not protected, sometimes the judge disagrees.  But at least we've put those facts in front of the judge.


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on 3/31/2021 at 8:43 PM

From: Kirk Cullimore Sr

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In Utah, our nonrenewal does not require “cause”.  Landlords don’t give a reason (except in Section 42 and Section 8). Most judges have determined that the CDC order does not apply to nonrenewal. We have had a couple question if this was just a means around the CDC order since the person clearly owed rent. But even in those cases, they have granted the restitution.  Just my experience.

 

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